I believe that the creature will be happy with another like himself, because he yearns to feel the love of another, and thinks that he can only give - and receive - love from another being if it is compiled of similar horrendous characteristics.
The creature feels he will be happy with a female like himself because there will be someone in the world who looks like him. The creature feels alone in the world right now. The creation of a creature with physical features like himself will allow him to be more attached to it.The creation knows he can't be seen in public, and therefore he needs someone just as hideous to hide from the world with him. I agree that the creature needs someone like him. The relationship with a human-being and the creature simply wouldn't work out. Taylor Quella
The creature thinks he will be happy with a creature like himself so he can communicate and have a relationship with someone. He is tired of living a solitary life and wants someone who looks similar to himself so she will look passed his appearance and still be kind to him. I agree with the creature because if he has someone with him he will be happy. The lack of communication and lack of attention has driven him to live a sad and lonely life. A companion can turn his life around.
I do agree. I believe that he wants someone as ugly as him. If he finds someone, or in this case has Frankenstein create one for him, he will in a sense have the good life. She will not run from him for his wretchedness because she is as monstrous. He will have someone who will be with him in the wilderness and will love, or at least sympathize, with him. Cassandra ♫
The creature thinks he will be happy with a female like himself because they won't have to worry about how the other looks. They won't need acceptance from the world, they can just be attached that much more to eachother. I agree with how the creature feels. They wouldn't be a need for insecurites, and no one would have to accept something they don't actually want. The creations could just be happy together, and that is what everyone wants to have in life. -chelsea norem
I agree, I think he will truly be happy once he has someone to love, to care for, and to share the defects of which he was brought into the world with. All the creature desires is someone to relate with and to spend a big portion of his life with, only then can he be truly happy.
I believe that the creature would be happy with another like himself. Everyone desires to be loved and give love in return. If he had a female companion he would no longer be lonely and shunned, which is the cause of his malicious and miserable attitude. ~Brittany Rowe
The creature feels that he will be happy with a female like himself because all the humans are scared of him. If he has a female that looks just like him he can have the companionship and love that he has longed for. I agree that he will be happy with a female like himself because she would have no reason to reject him and because they would be the only two of their kind so they would be forced to be with eachother or be with no one because humans would be scared of her too if she seeked them out for their approval. tori
In my opinion the creature would be happy if he had a female to keep him company and love him. He feels like an ugly and unnatural being and he wants someone else like him. If he had someone else like him then he wouldn't feel so alone and solitary. All the poor creature wants is love and affection and a female creature is the best source of such. -Jade
The creature thinks he will be happy with a female like him because he believes he will finally feel accepted. I disagree because I believe the new creation will not want anything to do with him. Thomas
The creature most likely developed the idea that a woman would bring him happiness after reading "Paradise Lost". While telling his story to Victor, the creature talks of having no Eve to soothe his sorrows. After the creation starts to understand feelings such as longing,rejection and loneliness, the idea of having his own Eve, someone like him, becomes his desire. I believe that the creature does deserve to have a friend. If there was someone like him to share the life of an outsider with his hostile emotions would vanish. All Frankenstein's creature wants is to be loved and accepted. [jacqueryan]
The creature thinks he will be happy with a female like himselft because she will be able to feel the pain that he feels. Right now, he doesn't have anyone that cares about him. His creator abandoned him and normal people think he is hideous. With the creation of a female similar to him, he can end his frustration and crimes. Travis Amor
As bascially everyone else has already stated, the creature wants a female companion for various reasons..acceptance, the desire to give and also to recieve love are just a few examples.
But who's to say that if Victor went through the whole process of creating a female companion for his creature..whom by the way he irresponsibly left to fend for himself..that the female creature would want to be with the male creature? She might not like him at all..plus consider the male creature's whole socialization process. The female would have to go through the whole thing too, with possibly different results. The male creature was exposed to a loving environment. If the female creature happened upon a violent situation, she might not desire to be loved.
So no, I don't necessarily think that the creature would be happy with a female companion. ~Alyssa
At Alyssa: I never thought about it like that. It makes sense as she would, like the creature, have free choice. But there is one thing I don't agree with. If she is with the monster, than he can teach her through the process of development. After all, he was taught by Felix, even if it was through a hole. And also, the creature has searched for love for so long that if he had a female companion than he would in all likelyhood show love towards her. She sould learn in a loving environment and would likely want to love the creature back. Cassandra ♫
Maybe I am getting this wrong but didn't Victor have a major role in the mindset of how he wanted the monster to be? Also, a major reason the creature feels like he does is because of the way he was raised, or lack there of. The female creation will be raised in the exact environment, and will have the creature now to raise her. I believe that the circumstances will mold her to be how the creature is, and make her WANT to get attached to him. -chelsea norem
@Cassandra: I see your point..but I not totally agree with it. Yes, the creature would likely teach her what he's already learned. But..a teacher can teach one subject and two students walk away with their own interpretations. Just because the creature would be preaching love does not guarantee that his female companion would accept his logic and apply it. While Victor can creature her to look like the male creature, that doesn't mean she will be a clone of him.
Additionally, can we positively say that the creature would be able to show love? Yes, he learned ABOUT love from Felix and his family. But learning about something and actually doing it are two different things. -Alyssa
Was the creature a dead body or did he literally create him? If he created or programmed the body, what affect did his expirementing have on the creations mind? I guess I am asking if Victor did anything to the brain that made him think in a certain way?
Also, I don't think he will "father" the new creation necessarily. I think the man in a relationship should be the supporter and the guidance. He will have someone to relate to and grow a bond with. He won't really "raise" the creation but rather help her and shape her to being what he desires. Husbands should always have their wife's back and teach them new things, and this is what the creature would do. However, it would seem like "fathering" because it is simple tasks he has to teach her and start at a young mind age, but it is all the same in reality, no matter how simple or perplex the teaching is. -chelsea norem
Any form of animated being generally wants to have some sort of companion or close friend. In the situation of the creature, a companion would greatly satisfy his need of a friend and someone to be able to peacefully converse with. I agree that a companion for the creature would make the creature not as devoted to the destruction of human beings. This will be the only way to divert the creature's plan of destroying humans, just as he had done with William and almost attemted with Justine. A companion can accompany him in his desertion of the human race and be able to die off peacefully.
I believe that the new female will want something to do with the creature because they will both be hideous and loved by no other people except themselves. She will have no one otherwise just as the creature has no one now.
Everybody wants to be loved and I believe if the creature could have this he would be happy. However a female would be, in my opinion, a horrible first start mostly because they are overly complicated and highly emotional. So I believe love is the right choice, though he should start off with a puppy or maybe even a goldfish.
Alyssa- "Additionally, can we positively say that the creature would be able to show love? Yes, he learned ABOUT love from Felix and his family. But learning about something and actually doing it are two different things. "
I have to disagree with you here. Does he not show love at least in the way he tried to help the cottagers out with the wood? He referred to them with terms like "my beloved cottagers" (90). I think the creature is very capable of showing love, just as all of us are. It's a natural thing for most. I think he would even moreso be capable of showing love to a creature who is similar to him. -Jade
"Rico Suave"- Overly complicated and highly emotional?! Where on earth do you find that females are overly complicated? Our minds work in similar ways to that of a male. They really do.
@ Alyssa: What is love? An intense sense of care for someone. No one ever practiced the act of caring with the monster, but he still showed it. When the young girl fell into the river, he could have left her. He could have stayed in his hiding space, let her drown, and not have to worry about more hatred being shown to him. But he didn't. He jumped in and saved her. Yes, he turned bitter and hateful afterwards, but who wouldn't be resentful if they got shot for helping? But the fact that he cared enough to get out of his comfort zone and save her at the risk of himself shows that he is capable of caring. Which can eventually turn to love. Also, I never said she would be a clone. Look at parents. Most of the time they are very dissimilar, but they love each other still. Yes the female will be different from the creature, but her upbringing will be that of the creature's. He will teach her what he knows and she will learn through his influence. Think of that bible verse that says "Train up a child in the way they should go and when they are older they shall not depart from it." The same goes for the circumstances at present.
ALyssa and company... this debate is excellent...you are making very logical points for both sides
In terms of creating the body, I'm sure he just used a dead brain, right? I don't think he could do antyhing other than make him alive...now perhaps he took great care in picking out the brain, in terms of size etc.
@ Rico Suave: Women are not over complicated. There is a phrase I like "Men are waffles, women are speghetti". It means that men think women are complicated and emotional because they can only focus on one thing at a time. Like the little squares on a waffle. Each one is a subject and a guy can only be in one at a time. But women can focus on more than one thing. Everything runs together for us and we multitask. We have to. So we are like speghetti. It all runs together. Cassandra ♫ Ps: that comment to alyssa about love was me too.
To anonymous, yes this is Brittany Rowe!!! And women are just as complicated as men, I think we both need to work on understanding eachother because clearly neither of us do. ~Brittany Rowe
@Jade- Yeah he did help out the cottagers with the wood and all..that wasn't out of love though, at first. After awhile, actually, it seemed like he had an obession with the family not a love. Yes, watching them was his chief occupation but it seemed like he was in love with the idea of love. If that makes sense.. I just don't think that he knows what love is..actually is.
@the comment that other response to my comment: Amen, with the scripture!!:) You do have a point there. But if he was brought up in an unconventional way, wouldn't he be imparting that on her? He hasn't learned how to do alot of things..which depending on where they live, may matter. But also he hasn't learned to provide for others..he barely can provide for himself.. -Alyssa
mmatysak- But who else is she going to try to be with, the humans that hate her before even knowing her? It's not like there is a choice to be made. -Jade
Dear Rico Suave, after all that women have to go through and put up with when it comes to men, I believe we have a right to be overemotional if we want to!!! ~Brittany Rowe
@ alyssa: not true. He hasn't died of malnutrition yet, so I think he's doing pretty good so far. Especially for one who hasn't been formally taught. Cassandra ♫
I believe that the creature will be happy with another like himself, because he yearns to feel the love of another, and thinks that he can only give - and receive - love from another being if it is compiled of similar horrendous characteristics.
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The creature feels he will be happy with a female like himself because there will be someone in the world who looks like him. The creature feels alone in the world right now. The creation of a creature with physical features like himself will allow him to be more attached to it.The creation knows he can't be seen in public, and therefore he needs someone just as hideous to hide from the world with him. I agree that the creature needs someone like him. The relationship with a human-being and the creature simply wouldn't work out.
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The creature thinks he will be happy with a creature like himself so he can communicate and have a relationship with someone. He is tired of living a solitary life and wants someone who looks similar to himself so she will look passed his appearance and still be kind to him.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the creature because if he has someone with him he will be happy. The lack of communication and lack of attention has driven him to live a sad and lonely life. A companion can turn his life around.
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I do agree. I believe that he wants someone as ugly as him. If he finds someone, or in this case has Frankenstein create one for him, he will in a sense have the good life. She will not run from him for his wretchedness because she is as monstrous. He will have someone who will be with him in the wilderness and will love, or at least sympathize, with him.
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The creature thinks he will be happy with a female like himself because they won't have to worry about how the other looks. They won't need acceptance from the world, they can just be attached that much more to eachother. I agree with how the creature feels. They wouldn't be a need for insecurites, and no one would have to accept something they don't actually want. The creations could just be happy together, and that is what everyone wants to have in life.
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ReplyDeleteI agree, I think he will truly be happy once he has someone to love, to care for, and to share the defects of which he was brought into the world with. All the creature desires is someone to relate with and to spend a big portion of his life with, only then can he be truly happy.
I believe that the creature would be happy with another like himself. Everyone desires to be loved and give love in return. If he had a female companion he would no longer be lonely and shunned, which is the cause of his malicious and miserable attitude.
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The creature feels that he will be happy with a female like himself because all the humans are scared of him. If he has a female that looks just like him he can have the companionship and love that he has longed for. I agree that he will be happy with a female like himself because she would have no reason to reject him and because they would be the only two of their kind so they would be forced to be with eachother or be with no one because humans would be scared of her too if she seeked them out for their approval.
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In my opinion the creature would be happy if he had a female to keep him company and love him. He feels like an ugly and unnatural being and he wants someone else like him. If he had someone else like him then he wouldn't feel so alone and solitary. All the poor creature wants is love and affection and a female creature is the best source of such.
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The creature thinks he will be happy with a female like him because he believes he will finally feel accepted. I disagree because I believe the new creation will not want anything to do with him.
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The creature will be happy IF the female creature actually wants to be his companion. This is a big IF, right?
ReplyDeleteThe creature most likely developed the idea that a woman would bring him happiness after reading "Paradise Lost". While telling his story to Victor, the creature talks of having no Eve to soothe his sorrows. After the creation starts to understand feelings such as longing,rejection and loneliness, the idea of having his own Eve, someone like him, becomes his desire. I believe that the creature does deserve to have a friend. If there was someone like him to share the life of an outsider with his hostile emotions would vanish. All Frankenstein's creature wants is to be loved and accepted. [jacqueryan]
ReplyDeleteThe creature thinks he will be happy with a female like himselft because she will be able to feel the pain that he feels. Right now, he doesn't have anyone that cares about him. His creator abandoned him and normal people think he is hideous. With the creation of a female similar to him, he can end his frustration and crimes.
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As bascially everyone else has already stated, the creature wants a female companion for various reasons..acceptance, the desire to give and also to recieve love are just a few examples.
ReplyDeleteBut who's to say that if Victor went through the whole process of creating a female companion for his creature..whom by the way he irresponsibly left to fend for himself..that the female creature would want to be with the male creature? She might not like him at all..plus consider the male creature's whole socialization process. The female would have to go through the whole thing too, with possibly different results. The male creature was exposed to a loving environment. If the female creature happened upon a violent situation, she might not desire to be loved.
So no, I don't necessarily think that the creature would be happy with a female companion.
~Alyssa
At Alyssa:
ReplyDeleteI never thought about it like that. It makes sense as she would, like the creature, have free choice. But there is one thing I don't agree with. If she is with the monster, than he can teach her through the process of development. After all, he was taught by Felix, even if it was through a hole. And also, the creature has searched for love for so long that if he had a female companion than he would in all likelyhood show love towards her. She sould learn in a loving environment and would likely want to love the creature back.
Cassandra ♫
-Mrs. Matysak
ReplyDeleteMaybe I am getting this wrong but didn't Victor have a major role in the mindset of how he wanted the monster to be? Also, a major reason the creature feels like he does is because of the way he was raised, or lack there of. The female creation will be raised in the exact environment, and will have the creature now to raise her. I believe that the circumstances will mold her to be how the creature is, and make her WANT to get attached to him.
-chelsea norem
Chelsea...clarify your "mindset" questions...
ReplyDeleteSo...the creature will "father" the new creature... would this necessarily lead to the kind of relationship the creature desires?
@Cassandra:
ReplyDeleteI see your point..but I not totally agree with it. Yes, the creature would likely teach her what he's already learned. But..a teacher can teach one subject and two students walk away with their own interpretations. Just because the creature would be preaching love does not guarantee that his female companion would accept his logic and apply it. While Victor can creature her to look like the male creature, that doesn't mean she will be a clone of him.
Additionally, can we positively say that the creature would be able to show love? Yes, he learned ABOUT love from Felix and his family. But learning about something and actually doing it are two different things.
-Alyssa
-Mrs. Matysak
ReplyDeleteWas the creature a dead body or did he literally create him? If he created or programmed the body, what affect did his expirementing have on the creations mind? I guess I am asking if Victor did anything to the brain that made him think in a certain way?
Also, I don't think he will "father" the new creation necessarily. I think the man in a relationship should be the supporter and the guidance. He will have someone to relate to and grow a bond with. He won't really "raise" the creation but rather help her and shape her to being what he desires. Husbands should always have their wife's back and teach them new things, and this is what the creature would do. However, it would seem like "fathering" because it is simple tasks he has to teach her and start at a young mind age, but it is all the same in reality, no matter how simple or perplex the teaching is.
-chelsea norem
Any form of animated being generally wants to have some sort of companion or close friend. In the situation of the creature, a companion would greatly satisfy his need of a friend and someone to be able to peacefully converse with. I agree that a companion for the creature would make the creature not as devoted to the destruction of human beings. This will be the only way to divert the creature's plan of destroying humans, just as he had done with William and almost attemted with Justine. A companion can accompany him in his desertion of the human race and be able to die off peacefully.
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I believe that the new female will want something to do with the creature because they will both be hideous and loved by no other people except themselves. She will have no one otherwise just as the creature has no one now.
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Everybody wants to be loved and I believe if the creature could have this he would be happy. However a female would be, in my opinion, a horrible first start mostly because they are overly complicated and highly emotional. So I believe love is the right choice, though he should start off with a puppy or maybe even a goldfish.
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Alyssa-
ReplyDelete"Additionally, can we positively say that the creature would be able to show love? Yes, he learned ABOUT love from Felix and his family. But learning about something and actually doing it are two different things. "
I have to disagree with you here. Does he not show love at least in the way he tried to help the cottagers out with the wood? He referred to them with terms like "my beloved cottagers" (90). I think the creature is very capable of showing love, just as all of us are. It's a natural thing for most. I think he would even moreso be capable of showing love to a creature who is similar to him.
-Jade
btw is that Brittany Rowe?
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"Rico Suave"-
ReplyDeleteOverly complicated and highly emotional?! Where on earth do you find that females are overly complicated? Our minds work in similar ways to that of a male. They really do.
@ Alyssa:
ReplyDeleteWhat is love? An intense sense of care for someone. No one ever practiced the act of caring with the monster, but he still showed it. When the young girl fell into the river, he could have left her. He could have stayed in his hiding space, let her drown, and not have to worry about more hatred being shown to him. But he didn't. He jumped in and saved her. Yes, he turned bitter and hateful afterwards, but who wouldn't be resentful if they got shot for helping? But the fact that he cared enough to get out of his comfort zone and save her at the risk of himself shows that he is capable of caring. Which can eventually turn to love.
Also, I never said she would be a clone. Look at parents. Most of the time they are very dissimilar, but they love each other still. Yes the female will be different from the creature, but her upbringing will be that of the creature's. He will teach her what he knows and she will learn through his influence. Think of that bible verse that says "Train up a child in the way they should go and when they are older they shall not depart from it." The same goes for the circumstances at present.
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ReplyDeletethis debate is excellent...you are making very logical points for both sides
In terms of creating the body, I'm sure he just used a dead brain, right? I don't think he could do antyhing other than make him alive...now perhaps he took great care in picking out the brain, in terms of size etc.
@ Rico Suave:
ReplyDeleteWomen are not over complicated. There is a phrase I like "Men are waffles, women are speghetti". It means that men think women are complicated and emotional because they can only focus on one thing at a time. Like the little squares on a waffle. Each one is a subject and a guy can only be in one at a time. But women can focus on more than one thing. Everything runs together for us and we multitask. We have to. So we are like speghetti. It all runs together.
Cassandra ♫
Ps: that comment to alyssa about love was me too.
To anonymous, yes this is Brittany Rowe!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd women are just as complicated as men, I think we both need to work on understanding eachother because clearly neither of us do.
~Brittany Rowe
@Cassie: I agree with you there. However, the term you're looking for is "spaghetti", not "speghetti". I would know.
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shouldn't we get to pick who we end up with for the rest of our life...they are taking that choice from the female
ReplyDeleteyeah you would know, italian! lol love you jj!
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@mmatysak, hmmm, I never thought about that, you have a very good point there. :) @JJ, way to be a jerk hahaha
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@Jade-
ReplyDeleteYeah he did help out the cottagers with the wood and all..that wasn't out of love though, at first. After awhile, actually, it seemed like he had an obession with the family not a love. Yes, watching them was his chief occupation but it seemed like he was in love with the idea of love. If that makes sense.. I just don't think that he knows what love is..actually is.
@the comment that other response to my comment:
Amen, with the scripture!!:) You do have a point there. But if he was brought up in an unconventional way, wouldn't he be imparting that on her? He hasn't learned how to do alot of things..which depending on where they live, may matter. But also he hasn't learned to provide for others..he barely can provide for himself..
-Alyssa
Thank you Brittany! :)
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mmatysak-
ReplyDeleteBut who else is she going to try to be with, the humans that hate her before even knowing her? It's not like there is a choice to be made.
-Jade
Yeah Rico Suave girls rule and boys drool!...except for me
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Dear Rico Suave, after all that women have to go through and put up with when it comes to men, I believe we have a right to be overemotional if we want to!!!
ReplyDelete~Brittany Rowe
I pway?
ReplyDelete@Brittany and Cassie: Orale, I can't help it. I get very personal about topics like this.
ReplyDelete-JJ; That one Italian.
@ alyssa: not true. He hasn't died of malnutrition yet, so I think he's doing pretty good so far. Especially for one who hasn't been formally taught.
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Dove sono i miei italiani?
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